The Lizard Canary Association

WOW Kevin.

Pleased for you, I have the big 0 @ present but I am getting there slowly.

A lot of Lizard breeders close to me are having a very slow start and many cbs are saying things are slow this year.

Joe

Your Honour I present my case:

England , population 60 million . Bird shows held in 'cheapest place we can find' , Champion & Novice system employed , show cage entry 40p to a £1 , Rosettes awarded 'for turning up ' , Catering (if you are lucky) , facilities (pub three miles down the road ) entry 100 to 1,000. (big show)

Belgium , population 10 million , Bird shows held in venues that host events like the Eurovision Song Contest , showing all in ( no champion or novice ) , show cage entry minimum 5 euro , Rosettes only awarded to first three , Gold , Silver , Bronze. Catering Full Resturant , facilities ---all the major bird companies take a trade stand , entry 4,000 small show , 8,000 average show .

I know what your thinking ----its a hard choice eh? Or as one show Sec said to me , "Well piss off and show over there then " so I did ! And I'll be going back this year , you see I always take advice from members that have been members for 5 years .

Cynical sarcasm I know ----but true !!

Anyway back to judging , its easy for me to sit and write smart arsed posts , and I do genuinely admire those guys that give up thier time to do it for without them thered be no shows . I just think there is a better way of appointing Judges .
The CCBA model has Judges at three levels and a written and pratical test is taken at each level to advance to the next , this way even those fairly new to the hobby can get in at foundation level to judge Colour Canaries at CBS level and then progress with experience . Also whilst on the Judges list they are expected to attend Judges seminars to keep abreast of new developements within the fancy. It encourages newcomers to get involved rather than let them become cynical like me !

Regards Paul.

You cynical, i don't believe it.

Wasn't that Victor Meldews catch phrase.

Nuff said!!

any way, get off your soap box, I'm borrowing it this week. (best not both stand on it at once, all that weight, it would be an accident waiting to happen)

darren

im looking forward to the lca council meeting on sunday, it looks as though there will be plenty of discussion about the judging situation.

To all attending on Sunday,

Hope the day goes well and you have some banter, the fact that you guys give up your own time, and some travel a far old distance to do so speaks volumes.

Is the dialogue from the meeting cascaded down to LCA members, if so how?

Or is it taken to the Classic and presented there?

darren

Hi Chaps

Where do i start, third breeding season, 1st year 13 chicks, 2nd year 31 chicks all went well, A friend moving house asked me to have his Glosters, got the room no problem, they hadnt been bred from for 3 yrs so didnt expect much, did quite well bred 14 glosters, now running out of room so decided some birds must go, i sorted out what i wonted to keep, 5 pairs of young lizards, 3 pairs of 2007 plus + 1 pair of 2005 lizards and about 6 spare hens, lizards sorted now glosters, as the parents where old i got rid of them, i kept 4 pairs of young and brought in some new blood, all ready for 2009 season, now this is where thing go every wrong
AS you all now WHAT i thought where hens or cocks plus i have a pigeon scarer going off all day and some times late at night all this has turned my season up side down , so i have given away all the glosters and will be putting all my heart in trying to get my lizards breeding, so far out of 9 pr i have only 2 2007 gold hens breeding. 5 chicks on sticks 5 in nests. plus about 6 silver COCKS
sadly yours Bridget

I could trot out the old answer Biddy "Well it only takes one to win" but I shall not patronise you . It makes you wonder doesn't it why one good year is immediately followed by a bad one , do we become to complacent ? Of course if I knew the answer I'd be a wealthy man .If I have a bad year I put it down to larkin and am more determined to get it right the following year . It won't make you feel any better I'm afraid but this is looking like a good year for me.
Across the breeds I keep I have rung 62 birds , My main breeds are Lizards , Japanese Hoso and Scotch Fancy but I also have my experimental pairs , crested posture canaries and even a crested self green cock to an intensive red hen in an effort to breed some varigated red black ( bronze ) staffords to keep Darren happy.

Regards Paul.

the notes from the LCA council meeting will be printed in the next Newsletter, as was last years meeting notes in the Summer 2008 newsletter. i think this meeting may be a long one.
regards david.

Can you believe this.

Been trying to get my Lizards up and running since March and nothing.

I had a hen in with a cock bird that would,nt build a nest and was,nt interested, But dropped one egg on the floor and one in the grit pot, Then nothing so I seperated them.

Any way I thought nothing to lose stick the 2 eggs under the coloureds and blimey, hey presto this morning I end up with my 1st Lizard chicks of the season as I marked the eggs.

Only trouble is I dont know which are the coloureds and which are the Lizards,to ring LOL.

Hope fully that me on the move know.

Joe

i may be a bit old fashioned but if i have birds which are not showing signs of breeding by the middle of april,old or young,i turn them out into the flights,i let them get on with it or not outside,sometimes had some excellent young from them,though from pairs not of my choosing,but hey as us mackems say outs better than nowt.

Joe , LCA ring on one leg , other ring on the other leg ----cut of the one you dont need later on. Its what I've done with the Lizards that I'll take to the continental shows this year ---lca left , ioa right .

It looks like I'll be doing one show in France 27th Oct to 1st Nov , the Golden Ring in Belgium early December and of course the World Show in Portugal but the Lizards wont be going there .

Regards Paul.

John Boy , I know its off topic but why are people from Sunderland called mackems ----I know people from Middlesboro' are called smoggies because of all the chemical factories but I have never found out about mackems & tackems (Newcastle I think ) .

Regards Paul.

to lizcol.its because of the shipbuilding which at one time was all allong the river,we used to mackem and the navy used to tackem,hence the term mackems,the newcastle lot are geordies,because of the george lamp in the coalpits,they where the last pit to change over to the davie lamps,hence geordies.do not get mackems mixed up with geordies or it is a death sentence in the north east.

Hi Paul, El Presidenta

Congrats, IOA

If you doing european shows ie France, Belgium ring, I would love to know bit more or even go to 1 or 2 of these shows

Whats the chances of some info

Regards Joe

John boy , thanks for the explination ---now I know!

Joe thanks for your kind words , its a great honour to be recognised by your peers and if I can be half the President my dear departed friend Ron Evans was I wont make a bad fist of it.

Up until now the IOA have mostly concentrated on the World Show , upon being elected I asked the Committee to support me in my desire to see the IOA COM GB have a greater presence in Europe. This year we will be conveying birds to the Golden Ring , in Rossalare , Belgium and this very day I have been in discussions with Jean Marie Bhait about us attending the show in Canteleu this October . This is the only show in France this year being held under the auspices of the COM.

The World Show is a must for the IOA but I know not all members and affiliate members can attend , I hope that by attending shows nearer to home we can encourage members to 'dip thier toe into continental show waters' . Many people like to see thier birds on the show bench and both the Golden Ring and the French show are achievable on a day trip , both being less than a couple of hours from the Tunnel.

Both are International Shows which means the birds go in on tuesday for Judgement and the shows are open saturday & sunday to the public. This is one great thing about the IOA because we convey the birds for you and bring them back afterwards ----you just turn up and collect your medals (you have to aim high eh?) We arrange all vets certificates from our registered holding points , I am now a licensed conveyor and my premisis are registered with the Animal Health . We translate and advise on all matters to make showing at some of the biggest shows around an enjoyable experience.

All birds must be close rung with year colour ID coded rings so its not to late to get your IOA rings for those second round chicks if you want to take part .

I'll give more info nearer the time.

Regards Paul.