Welcome
Welcome to <strong>The Lizard Canary Association </strong>.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free, so please, <a href="/profile.php?mode=register">join our community today</a>!

Anti or Pro Biotic?

Seek & give advice on canary ailments.

Moderator: steve

Anti or Pro Biotic?

Postby lizcol on Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:23 pm

What are your thoughts ? I'm in the probiotic camp as it my belief that if you follow a probiotic regieme there will be little need for the use of antibiotics .
By probiotic I don't mean a commercially bought product more a way of kick starting the 'good guy' bugs in a chicks gut by feeding the right foodstuffs .

It may be old fashioned , and some will tell you a bird cannot digest dairy products , but I use milk sop once a week and I'll use plain natural yoghurt in with the eggfood when they are a day or two old. Probiotic food is food that contains live bacteria, and not all bacteria is harmful in fact probiotics help build up a chicks natural resistance.

How do probiotics work?
Most live bacteria that are ingested die when they reach the acid conditions of the stomach. For a beneficial bacterium to be classified as a probiotic it must be resistant to gastric, bile and pancreatic juices to reach the colon alive. The probiotics attach to the wall of the intestine where they increase the number of beneficial bacteria and fight against harmful bacteria thus maintaining a balance between the beneficial and harmful bacteria.


Brewers yeast is another aid , not only does it contain all the major B vitamins but is acts as a prebiotic ie: it kick starts the kick start. It can be bought comercially as PYM . I'll add more probiotics as the thread goes on but thats enough from me for now.

Regards Paul.
User avatar
lizcol
Senior Site Admin
 
Posts: 363
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:49 pm
Location: Crawley West Sussex

Postby steve on Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:28 pm

i dont use either anti or pro as i dont have a clue about them bud.

but i like the sound of the probiotics,this brewers yeast,is it the same stuff you buy from the wine making section of boots in the little sachets.?????
User avatar
steve
 
Posts: 417
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:27 pm

pro or not pro

Postby dtalizard stud on Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:22 am

Well I don't use much of probiotic but I do use brewers yeast, not the PYM but another make desgined for racing pigeons. I also use a product called Aqua Guard in the drinking water. this help keep the water clean it is very good for use when soaking soaked seed., as it keeps the water fresh.
Yet anpother pigeon product. Over the last few months i have been mixing grated carrot & grated apple with my eggfood, which my birds seem to really enjoy. [I'm only giving it them once a week currently]
I think I will try and continue this all the way through the breeding season this year to see if it has any differents.

regards David.
dta lizard stud
dtalizard stud
 
Posts: 237
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:10 am
Location: oxfordshire

Postby joe90 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:00 pm

Hi,David.

I also use aqua guard

Do you use aqua guard all year round or just through the breeding season'

Just interested as I only use leading up to breeding,mainly because I use the fountain drinkers for convienience as i go out early and come home late and some times have to miss a day

Regards Joe
joe90
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:52 am
Location: essex

Aqua Guard

Postby dtalizard stud on Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:43 pm

Yes Joe I use it all year round. But i find it is great when used to soak, soaked seed, as the water stays fresh.
regards david
dta lizard stud
dtalizard stud
 
Posts: 237
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:10 am
Location: oxfordshire

Postby BRYAN on Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:26 pm

hi all
i use virkon s in my germination seed, it keeps water fresh and seed never smells or goes rank,i also use it in my drinking water.
regards bryan
BRYAN
 
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:48 pm
Location: north hampshire


Return to Health & Medication

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

cron