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For sale, Split London Fancy

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For sale, Split London Fancy

Postby Piet on Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:14 am

I have for sale a few split London Fancy birds. Both young and older birds.

For more information and pictures (of both the birds and/or their parents) you can mail me at e_verheag@hotmail.com.


I'm sorry if not all the terms are correct. I had to translate them from dutch.
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Postby steve on Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:49 pm

hiya.

is this a genuine post or a wind up....london fancy ????
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Postby Piet on Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:44 pm

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Please keep in mind that this is not one of the birds that is for sale, only family of the bird.
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Is it April fools Day

Postby Darren on Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:20 pm

Steve,

I would love to believe this is not a wind up but can't believe it is not. What is the bird pictured?

It is referred to as a split London fancy, what is it split with?

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Postby steve on Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:26 am

i agree mate...

if these are genuine then i am sure the belguims would have snapped them up...
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Postby lizcol on Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:09 am

The Dutch COM , Nederlandse Bond van Vogelliefhebbers issued a standard for the London Fancy last year.

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You'll have to excuse the translation.
VLEUGELS/STAART 25 points , The vleugelpennen black without light ends. Wings well closed and regular. Staartpennen black, tail briefly, regularly and well closed.

CLARITY 20 points , Purify evenly of colour, both the melanine and
the lipochroomgedeelte.

COLOUR AND CAP 15 POINTS , The lipochroomkleur yolk have been only permitted, both intensively and mould. The melanine this way dark possible.

DEKVEREN VLEUGELPUNTEN 10 points , This way black possible.

LEGS, NAILS AND NOZZLE (beak) 10 POINTS , To plant rather short. Nozzle, legs and nails this way dark possible.

DONS 5 points , Must be in the possession of this way dark possible gemelaniseerd onderdons.

SIZE 5 points , 13cms maximum

CONDITION 10 points.

This is a literal translation but I will be getting an ehglish version of the standard at the World Show . The bird is shown in a Colour Canary box cage and a 2.9mm ring which I think is a size G.

Maybe Piet could tell us more as it is very interesting.

Regards Paul.
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London Fancy

Postby Darren on Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:39 pm

Paul,

so are you saying this email is for real or are you in on the joke?

What birds have been used to create this standard or is it still in infancy and not yet developed?

Is it called a London fancy?

am I being taken for a ride?

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Postby lizandy on Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:20 pm

hi all
these type of birds do exist in both holland and over here...bernard howlet from stow market has been breeding them for yrs and shows them at SE IPSWICH CBS

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Postby lizcol on Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:54 am

No Darren , its no hoax , they do exist and are called London Fancy , I believe Bernard Howlett calls his The New London Fancy and if memory serves me well he crosses Lizards with varigated Norwich ( make sure you don't get one of the offspring from that mating in your stud --it'll undo 300 years of pedigree breeding ).

The guys on the continent that are 'developing' this breed are being a bit cagey and all I've found out so far is that 'one of the parents is a Lizard' .

Although the Dutch COM have printed a standard it is not an accepted breed yet but who knows what the future may hold .

Of course it all has no bearing on the London Fancy of yesteryear as all they have to go on is old pictures and descriptions , there is no original London Fancy gene pool to work with other than the Lizard.
It has always been my contention that the London Fancy was nothing more than a derivation of the Lizard canary , different in visual appearence , but a Lizard never the less.
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Postby steve on Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:57 pm

the thing concerns me is this..

if these "london fancy" birds are paired,will they throw like for like young or is there a chance of something else coming out of the pairing like a lizard maybe...????
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Postby Piet on Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:43 am

First of all, this is definately no joke.

This london fancy is bred from a lizard and a color canary.

When you pair two london fancy's it's no guarantee that the young will be london fancy's, but there is definately a chance since I've had that happen a few times already.

Here's some more pictures of 2 of the birds.
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pietr londons

Postby john boy on Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:37 pm

could you give details of what birds were used in the breeding of these birds,it looks real enough,i for one would give it a go.
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Postby lizcol on Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:45 pm

Hello John,
Looking at the pictures they have used a bog standard Yellow Lipochrome colour canary . If you look carefully at the intensive bird you'll see the wing tips are brown as opposed to black.
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