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Good News (World Show)

Postby lizcol on Sun May 31, 2009 10:35 pm

You may recall that I attended the inaugral meeting of the European Lizard Canary Club whilst I was in Piacenza last January and some good has come from that meeting . For the 2010 World Show the Lizard will have three sectons ----instead of all being lumped in together there will be classes for Gold , Individual & Stams , Silver , Individual & Stams and Blues , Individual & Stams .

It just goes to show what can be achieved when nations work in unison ----it might be a bit late for a lot of you for 2010 but we can start to plan for 2011 when the World Show is held in France . Just imagine if we could bench 100 colour fed Lizards ----the COM and the Continentals might even come round to our way of thinking and start colourfeeding them !

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Postby dtalizard stud on Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:18 pm

Paul, i have a bee in my bonnet about colour fed Lizard for the world show, because correct me if I am wrong. But COM use the LCA GB standard to judge Lizards at the world show. And LCA states that they should be colour fed. So why do my birds get marked down becaues they are colour fed. As all my birds I have show at the last two world shows were marked low for ground colour,inculding my classic win a Clear Cap Gold cock. Iam not saying that my birds should have won but I feel they are being penilized for being colour fed yet according to the standard of the LCA they should be>
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Postby lizandy on Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:53 pm

i hope we find out which way we are heading before the birds bred in 2010 need colouring. i dont intend colouring or showing nxt season as i hope to send a good team to france.......and attend it to.
i totally agree with dave as they do use the LCA standard so your birds shouldnt loose points.......(JUST REMEMBER YOUR ENGLISH DAVE AS WHEN IN EUROPE ITS HARDER TO COMPETE AT ANY THING) :wink:

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Postby lizcol on Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:09 pm

Rugby League ---Rugby Union , all rugby but different rules.

You want to compete at the World Show its COM rules , you want to compete at the Classic it LCA rules ------remember Jules colour fed birds so he could come over to show at the Classic.

There are two schools of thought , one being the colourfed bird is a nicer looking bird the other that you can only really tell the depth of the ground colour with non colourfed birds.

Viva la differance .

It is only recently that UK exhibitors have started to show Lizards under the COM , their judges are used to non colourfed birds but the point I was making is we'd see how good they are if there was 100 colourfed Lizards ----by winning a few battles here and there you eventually win the war.

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Postby Darren on Tue Jun 02, 2009 9:29 pm

I've got the perfect solution to the problem, go to the massive pool of UK Lizard judges (tongue in cheek), get some of them to apply to be a COM judge (cause they aren't busy enough judging shows all over the UK) and have a British judge cast their eye over the birds in France, do ya know where I'm coming from boys?

Solution or what....

To our continental friends, don't be offended, it won't ever happen, i expect it's about as easy to become a COM judge as it is an LCA judge(just joking honest, i'm actually sat here wetting myself with laughter)

BUT IT IS WORTH A THOUGHT

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Re: Good News (World Show)

Postby dtalizard stud on Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:12 pm

It isn;t easy to become a COM judge it has taken Brian Hogg & Kevin MaCulam many years a several ateppemts before they past the COM test.
But both know a good Lizard and if either were to be selected for France we might have a chances, and there is a possiblity they may well be so fingers crossed lads. I will be their that's for sure and so will my birds if I bred any in 2010.
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Re: Good News (World Show)

Postby Darren on Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:44 pm

I'm gonna give France a go I think, hopefully I'll have a better breeding season next year so will have more to choose from.

What are the chances of LCA rings being accepted or will everything have to have an IOA ring on. Typically the two best birds I think i have bred this year have no rings on. They were first round birds which hatched just before i went to New York. My partner (Stepdad) is 70 and worked down pit so can't close ring birds cause his fingers are knackered. I put rings on prior to going on holiday but knew in my heart they would fall off, and they did.
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Re: Good News (World Show)

Postby lizcol on Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:49 pm

If I'm right I think its up at the LCA AGM to affilate to the IOA and then ID Colour Coded rings issued by the LCA would be acceptable Darren .
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Re: Good News (World Show)

Postby Darren on Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:21 pm

That means that this will not be discussed until next May at the AGM which rules out using LCA rings in 2010 for anyone who would wish to go to France. Looks like IOA ring sales will increase next year then, good for them, bad for the LCA.
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Re: Good News (World Show)

Postby lizcol on Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:56 pm

AGM is at the Classic Darren , May is the Council meeting , if the members give the go ahead in October we'll be ok for France .
Thing is I have a foot in both camps so will have to declare an interest and not vote.But its a simple process , if all are in favour then you just issue each LCA member with a membership number and this becomes his unique Identification Code ie: LCA 123 , then affiliation to the IOA , a sample ring is registered with the IOA and one with the COM , the IOA inform the COM we recognise LCA ID Colour Coded rings and bobs your uncle.

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Re: Good News (World Show)

Postby dtalizard stud on Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:27 pm

It was agreed t the council meeting in May that the LCA would ask about affilation to the IOA with a view of putting it to the members at the AGM.
But this would mean that the LCA would have to give each member an ID code as Paul states. You would haveto order your ID ring through the Ring steward i.e. Paul who would send them off for production.
The reason I use IOA rings is so i can currently show at the world show but if ID LCA rings were available I would use them.
I hope that clears things up Darren.
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Re: Good News (World Show)

Postby Darren on Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:08 pm

Certainly does, it would be great if we get the green light.
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