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unknown colour?

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unknown colour?

Postby john boy on Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:42 pm

in a book by wallrich circa 1904,i came across this statement"thirty years ago and upwards there was a breed of lizards known among fanciers as the blue lizard,i have never seen but three of these birds which i bought,it is 27 or 28 years since the last of these died and i have never been able to procure another specimen of them,although i have used every effort to do so,i have been told by several very old fanciers that they were very plentifull enough fifty or sixty years ago,now they appear to be quite exstinct,what a pity they were totally diffrent from the silver lizards of today,the ground colour of these birds was a beautifull soft bluish grey,but decidedly blue in tint,and the spangles where paticularly well defined and clear,and as white as newly molten silver,i consider they where by far the handsomest of all the lizard varieties."anyone know what this was i presumed a white ground,maybe recessive white or dominant.
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Postby steve on Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:13 pm

the "blue" lizard is something that the true lizard breeder frowns upon but i believe they are bred on the continent....

it would look something like this....

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Postby kevin on Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:50 pm

hi john, i keep a few blues, if i was any good on my pc id put up a photo, steve is quite rigt they are not well recieved by most lizard men,and you ae correct that they are of a whitgroud, i first bred a blue 7 years ago, crossing with a gloucster, in my eyes they are a lovely bird, but t hs to be said the spangles and rowing are poor compared to a true lizard. one or two of the guys on this forum have seen my brds, i showed them at the avcs earlier this year in an aov class.
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Postby dtalizard stud on Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:39 pm

The Blue Lizard is recongised in Europe but it is still judge to the same standard as the normal Lizard. i have seen kevin's blue lizard as I judged them at Kimberly. I thought they were of a fare standard. but i think why the Blues spangles are not as good is because people who breed them may put them to silvers which i think would in my opinion should always be paired Blue To gold. But as we know golds are always in short supply.
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Postby john boy on Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:05 am

i dont understand why if these birds where known as far back in time as they appear to have been they are frowned upon,is a cinnamon lizard treat in the same manner,after all they came from cinnamon?,in the canary bible by g t dodwell,coloured type and song,a complete guide,he states that undoubtedly some experimentation has taken place in order to inject hybrid vigour to a breed that at times has been near to exstinction,i personally think these ancient colours should be allowed,though i know i will get a bullet in the neck from some,but if the lizard spangling is there surely its a lizard,no matter what the ground colour,as long as its a full lizard and not variegated.
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Postby steve on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:05 am

i am an absolute beginner when it comes to lizards but for me there is only two colours,gold and silver.

all coming from cinny is a theory paul is looking at right now and it will be great to here what he has to say on the subject .......

but for me,its a no-no,keep it silver and gold.
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Postby steve on Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:05 am

i am an absolute beginner when it comes to lizards but for me there is only two colours,gold and silver.

all coming from cinny is a theory paul is looking at right now and it will be great to here what he has to say on the subject .......

but for me,its a no-no,keep it silver and gold.
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Postby lizcol on Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:26 pm

In the early days of the Colour Canary movement those breeders had a close relationship with Lizard breeders ( for a long time colour canaries were shown in a Lizard show cage) , many colour varient Lizards were bred. The Pearl (Satinette Lizard) , Blue (Dominant White), Silver Brown (Fawn), Gold Brown (Cinnamon), Rose Brown (Rose Cinnamon), Opal and Pastel.

It was soon realised though , that they were not very good lizards and not very good colour canaries and the practise died a death . I see many Blue and even Red Lizards on the Continent but they are never good enough to beat a Gold or a Silver and so to my mind its a bit of a waste of time keeping them , but I speak as a showman .

To improve the colour mutations you'd need dedicated breeders , and if they were showmen they'd want dedicated classes to be able to show them ---who's to say this may never happen? Maybe there will come a time when these birds are accepted but in my own opinion until I've bred 'the perfect Lizard' why would I waste my time?
But each to his own.

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Re: unknown colour?

Postby Tommy G Milner on Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:45 pm

Personally I like the Blues and I think the feather type can help in some pairings......This is my opinion with other breeds too.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. :D
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